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	<title>Comments on: Bring On The Women!</title>
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		<title>By: Vixen</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-72476</link>
		<dc:creator>Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what are some of you guys saying, that women shouldn&#039;t matter to this game?  Just play in a male skin and deal with it?  How many of you guys would still be looking forward to this release if all they had were female skins and you were just told to &quot;deal with it?&quot; It doesn&#039;t matter, does it?  

Women make up THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLD POPULATION.  As guys love to point out, women love to shop.  If you&#039;re going to build a game that relies on advertising, why would you try to alienate the very people that do the shopping?  The developers had the time and creativity to create a dozen unique male characters, but not a single female one?  Are you serious? Do we not matter?  

I&#039;ve been an active FPS player for near 10 years, and I know of many women who would jump on this game if we were recognized, or boycott the game if it marginalizes our very existence. I know girls that won&#039;t play Call of Duty 4 for this exact reason.  

I run 15 active game servers for one women&#039;s gaming community, and ALL of our served games are FPS.  We do game and we do compete, and no we DON&#039;T want to play Barbie or build pink communities or create colorful furry animals or whatever other misguided crap the current game manufacturers THINK we want. For the game manufacturers to smite us at a time when they&#039;re trying to grow the number of female gamers would be an extremely foolish move. If EA doesn&#039;t want to cater to the women player, maybe I should replace my EA game servers with games from manufacturers that DO care.  Don&#039;t think we have the numbers to make a difference? I know of women&#039;s gaming clans that have hundreds, even thousands of female members.  Should we test the boycott theory?  Is it even worth the potential negative publicity?  This is the internet and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. 

I put up with the &quot;male only&quot; characters in Call of Duty 4, but I refuse to do it again in Call of Duty World at War, and like the first posters wife, I won&#039;t do it for Battlefield Heroes. You may not want to game with the girls, but if everyone thought that way, I question why 70% of the people registering in my women&#039;s gaming forum are male. 

Some try to justify exclusion because it&#039;s a WWII type theme, but wake up and realize that this is a game, not reality.  Can you not tell that from looking at the animation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what are some of you guys saying, that women shouldn&#8217;t matter to this game?  Just play in a male skin and deal with it?  How many of you guys would still be looking forward to this release if all they had were female skins and you were just told to &#8220;deal with it?&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t matter, does it?  </p>
<p>Women make up THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLD POPULATION.  As guys love to point out, women love to shop.  If you&#8217;re going to build a game that relies on advertising, why would you try to alienate the very people that do the shopping?  The developers had the time and creativity to create a dozen unique male characters, but not a single female one?  Are you serious? Do we not matter?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been an active FPS player for near 10 years, and I know of many women who would jump on this game if we were recognized, or boycott the game if it marginalizes our very existence. I know girls that won&#8217;t play Call of Duty 4 for this exact reason.  </p>
<p>I run 15 active game servers for one women&#8217;s gaming community, and ALL of our served games are FPS.  We do game and we do compete, and no we DON&#8217;T want to play Barbie or build pink communities or create colorful furry animals or whatever other misguided crap the current game manufacturers THINK we want. For the game manufacturers to smite us at a time when they&#8217;re trying to grow the number of female gamers would be an extremely foolish move. If EA doesn&#8217;t want to cater to the women player, maybe I should replace my EA game servers with games from manufacturers that DO care.  Don&#8217;t think we have the numbers to make a difference? I know of women&#8217;s gaming clans that have hundreds, even thousands of female members.  Should we test the boycott theory?  Is it even worth the potential negative publicity?  This is the internet and hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. </p>
<p>I put up with the &#8220;male only&#8221; characters in Call of Duty 4, but I refuse to do it again in Call of Duty World at War, and like the first posters wife, I won&#8217;t do it for Battlefield Heroes. You may not want to game with the girls, but if everyone thought that way, I question why 70% of the people registering in my women&#8217;s gaming forum are male. </p>
<p>Some try to justify exclusion because it&#8217;s a WWII type theme, but wake up and realize that this is a game, not reality.  Can you not tell that from looking at the animation?</p>
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		<title>By: NotTrolling</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-69030</link>
		<dc:creator>NotTrolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MGS4 Online lets you play as a female soldier.

Give that a try!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MGS4 Online lets you play as a female soldier.</p>
<p>Give that a try!</p>
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		<title>By: Wilfred Jurgens</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-68787</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilfred Jurgens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Play medal of honor allied assualt and call of duty finest hour if you like the idea of women in war titels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play medal of honor allied assualt and call of duty finest hour if you like the idea of women in war titels</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-68644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just try out Perfect Dark Zero on XBox 360. It&#039;s one of the best shooters and the hero is a very good looking girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just try out Perfect Dark Zero on XBox 360. It&#8217;s one of the best shooters and the hero is a very good looking girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Duappy</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-68360</link>
		<dc:creator>Duappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So maybe women in a &quot;WW2&quot; environment isn&#039;t realistic, which is the argument most use, but it&#039;s obvious the game isn&#039;t shooting for realism when customization options allow for skull face paint, the Indiana Jones look, or trucker hats.

I&#039;ve also read about a &#039;time&#039; issue, where it would take more effort and time to add female models and their emotes and whatnot, but with the game being delayed so much, what the hell else are they doing? Adding female characters is a must-do nowadays, unless there is a storyline to follow, and even then, a lot of games alter the story for the female counterpart if need be.

Choosing and creating a female character is purely aesthetic; the content of the game is what should matter, right? But aren&#039;t all those options to customize your MALE character purely aesthetic as well? They&#039;re to set us apart. The inability to have a character with &quot;tits&quot; does not completely ruin the game for me; I&#039;ll still play if it&#039;s a good game. But if the men can wear trucker hats and capes and monocles, then why the hell can&#039;t I have my breasts? And I&#039;m not talking huge-breasted curvy women that adhere to the feminine stereotype, just something to set us apart.

I&#039;ve made my argument. Hopefully they realize soon enough that the female gaming group is growing astonishingly quick, and they&#039;ll make the necessary adjustments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So maybe women in a &#8220;WW2&#8243; environment isn&#8217;t realistic, which is the argument most use, but it&#8217;s obvious the game isn&#8217;t shooting for realism when customization options allow for skull face paint, the Indiana Jones look, or trucker hats.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read about a &#8216;time&#8217; issue, where it would take more effort and time to add female models and their emotes and whatnot, but with the game being delayed so much, what the hell else are they doing? Adding female characters is a must-do nowadays, unless there is a storyline to follow, and even then, a lot of games alter the story for the female counterpart if need be.</p>
<p>Choosing and creating a female character is purely aesthetic; the content of the game is what should matter, right? But aren&#8217;t all those options to customize your MALE character purely aesthetic as well? They&#8217;re to set us apart. The inability to have a character with &#8220;tits&#8221; does not completely ruin the game for me; I&#8217;ll still play if it&#8217;s a good game. But if the men can wear trucker hats and capes and monocles, then why the hell can&#8217;t I have my breasts? And I&#8217;m not talking huge-breasted curvy women that adhere to the feminine stereotype, just something to set us apart.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made my argument. Hopefully they realize soon enough that the female gaming group is growing astonishingly quick, and they&#8217;ll make the necessary adjustments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-68302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say that if they have to &lt;b&gt;hint&lt;/b&gt; that a character &lt;b&gt;might&lt;/b&gt; be a woman, then it misses the point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say that if they have to <b>hint</b> that a character <b>might</b> be a woman, then it misses the point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LostOverThere</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-68293</link>
		<dc:creator>LostOverThere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Valve keep hinting that the Pyro might actually be a woman. So it&#039;s very well possible that there is a woman character in TF2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Valve keep hinting that the Pyro might actually be a woman. So it&#8217;s very well possible that there is a woman character in TF2.</p>
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		<title>By: sobi</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-67789</link>
		<dc:creator>sobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not setin WW2! thats a common misconseption. so stop saying its in WW2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not setin WW2! thats a common misconseption. so stop saying its in WW2</p>
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		<title>By: infinity</title>
		<link>http://weblog.probablynot.com/2008/02/19/bring-on-the-women/comment-page-1/#comment-64754</link>
		<dc:creator>infinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by-the-way, you probably won&#039;t see me on this site again, mostly since i don&#039;t feel like adding it to favorites or memorizing the address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by-the-way, you probably won&#8217;t see me on this site again, mostly since i don&#8217;t feel like adding it to favorites or memorizing the address.</p>
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		<title>By: infinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>infinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...for the rebels anyway..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;for the rebels anyway..</p>
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